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  The Seattle Papers' take on Stratton

  by JeffT in

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  take a look.

  http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/horsey/viewbydate.asp?id=658

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  mrs rocky2

  Cool - at least someone got the point.

  Mrs Rocky, a friend of Stratton
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  This is SO SICK and WRONG!

  by SYN in

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  omg.

  this is just wrong on so many levels.

  thongs for young girls!

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  mrs rocky2

  I haven't figured out why anyone would be comfortable wearing thong underwear anyway. When I was 10, heck 16, and even now, I tried desperately to keep my panties from doing that. Ick! People pay money for those things now! Omygosh!

  D8TA I have to agree with. Rape victims have fought against the provocative clothing scenario for years. Predators don't need provocative clothing to pick a victim, although it doesn't deter them. Their minds are already twisted. But it doesn't help for society to sexualize everything either.

  Mrs R
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  Were you chaperoned?

  by writerpen in

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  now that i'm out of the borg and realizing that i've never dated, i think it's in the near future for me.

  so i was thinking about my age of 30 and never being on a date.

  but even worse, i was thinking of those of you who dated while in the borg and had to deal with an audience - actually i had to laugh when thinking about the absurdity of the scenario.

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  Ah - the whirlwhind romance, complete with chaperone. Rocky and I were allowed our first date without a chaperone. Pizza and a movie in the big city an hour away. That was the last time we were ever allowed to be alone, other than the evening he proposed to me. Not that anything happened on that first date. Maybe it's because Rocky's mom was more trusting of him than my parents were of me, and we were on his turf.

  I remember going to see Superman (this dates me, the one with Christopher Reeves). Every time the screen got bright my brother, who was sitting about 4 people to the left of us (we went in a big group), would lean forward and look down the row to make sure hands were where they were supposed to be.

  My family didn't want us to sit on the sofa together. We couldn't look at each other, let alone hold hands. So maybe that's why we had our first date in late November, were engaged in January, and married in May.

  BTW - we weren't teenagers when this all happened. I was 21, he was 24.
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  Treating the pioneers "Just So."

  by LDH in

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  i was reading jjrizo's thread about elders who take advantage of the kh, and i had a memory i'd like to share.

  all my life growing up i had heard about how "jehovah takes care of those who put kingdom interests first.

  " and all of those experiences on the platform about getting an envelope "with the exact rent amount due the day before we were to be evicted" and so on.

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  Island Woman - while you may have had exceptionally good experiences in your corner of the world, the fact that so many have not had good experiences is telling. JWs and WT preach they are 'United in pure worship.' Yet these little things, like how pioneers and COs are treated (not necessarily materially) differently speaks volumes about the inconsistencies in JW theology. I don't think most people who join the ranks of pioneers expect to be materially supported. They wouldn't be pioneering if they felt that way. But, the WT does repeatedly use this reasoning, that putting Kingdom interests first, will result in all your needs being cared for.

  My mother-in-law has pioneered on and off over the last 47 years, the last stretch was a 10 year stint and only quit because her husband was dying. He was not a Witness, and pinchy when it came to $$$. She often went without. I remember how she would line her winter boots with plastic bags because she couldn't buy new ones. (We were equally poor or I would have bought her new boots.) The congregation rarely helped her, and I don't mean materially. They did not support her emotionally, nor do they support her emotionally now. Of course, this local congregation is a shining example of showing favoratism. There are two younger pioneer sisters new to the area. The congregation secretary offered them a vacation in Hawaii if they would read the Bible cover to cover. But none of the elders would help a mildly mentally retarded newly baptized sister get to the District Convention. We took her in our old camper with our kids (truck only had two seatbelts, so there were 3 adults, 2 kids). She rode home from convention in another camper, family with 5 kids. A widowed sister shared her hotel room (the mildly mentally retarded sister split the costs) but I never heard so much complaining when we got home. Sister widow complained (and not just to me, but the entire congregation) about her room mate's lack of social skills. That was the last convention this mentally retarded sister attended.

  Yet where my parents live, 300 miles from here, they take very good care of the pioneers. The body of elders take the pioneers to dinner once a month. They never have to use their own cars for service. They are never without 'new' (new to them, but very nice) clothes. And for the most part, the congregation consistently cares for their own, especially 'widows and orphans.' I believe they are exceptional.

  In another congregation in Oregon we know personally a couple of pioneers - life time pioneers, 40+ years in the service. Brother Pioneer has always done manual part time labor to support them materially, Sister Pioneer has a few house cleaning jobs. They have given everything to the WT over the years, time, $$, emotion, doing without many things the rest of us might consider to be necessities. They are pushing 70 years old now. A couple of years ago they had a series of unforseen circumstances. Their car gave up (needed a new motor). Health problems. Got the car motor fixed but needed new tires. You would think someone would have noticed their need. These people took their vacation at the yearly conventions. They couldn't afford anything else. Only one family in their circuit took notice. And they were young and equally poor. Word travelled all the way to us via our young and poor friends and help was found - but not within the ranks of loyal JWs. So very sad. These experiences are the reality of JWs.

  Jesus told his followers that they would be known by the love they had. He gave the illustration of the good Samaritan. So true followers of Christ would make great efforts to show love to their brothers and to those not related to them in the faith. This is not consistently practiced by WT followers. If it were there would be no need for this fine forum.

  Day two of being on my soapbox, sorry for going on and on and on......

  Mrs. R
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  Southwest Air...Marketing Blunder??

  by teenyuck in

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  just saw this on msnbc....got the story from the web site.

  the association to accept fat people (or something like that) is protesting and asking how this determination will be made?

  make people climb on a scale or measure their butt?

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  Large people pay more for clothing. It's a matter of physics. More cloth, more cost. The issue is not who is to blame for their size. Causes of largeness can be debated in the medical/psychological community until eternity. The problem at hand is how much space do you take up. My daughter just flew to Japan. The weight limit for her check-in luggage was 60 pounds. If the luggage weighs more you have to pay more. If Southwest applies the rule fairly, then there should be no objection because it really is a matter of physics. A plane will only hold so much weight. So if a passenger takes up two seats then they should pay for two seats. And I am not anti-heavy people. Having battled the bulge for 18 years post pregnancy I understand the difficulty of weight control (wish I could lose those extra 30 pounds). I don't think it is discrimination. ADA only requires reasonable accomodation. And yes, it is difficult for people of size to travel, to socialize without stigma, whatever is at the root of their size, whether medical or poor personal choice. But puleeze! let's be reasonable.

  Thank you for letting me stand on my soapbox - it's been a long day and I just had to rant and rave for a little while......
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  Does the FBI have a file on you?

  by patio34 in

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  does the fbi have a file on you?

  be prepared for a real surprise at this site... .

  an attorney i know gave me this site, i thought you might find it interesting.

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  mrs rocky2

  Heeheeheee...didn't realize I looked so much like my sister! ROFLOL

  Mrs R
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  News from Calgary

  by larc in

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  the trial to decide whether the father can continue to allow his ill jw daughter to have blood transfusions is in progress.

  four people are testifying in the father's defense.

  jim penton, sam muramoto, chris christonson, and greg stafford.

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  Dungbeetle - this is the same Chris that you met in Ritzville. He has a different car, the one he had in Ritzville was his work car - gets great gas mileage. Can't believe the one he drove to Ritzville got him there and back to the northland.

  Mrs R
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  News from Calgary

  by larc in

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  the trial to decide whether the father can continue to allow his ill jw daughter to have blood transfusions is in progress.

  four people are testifying in the father's defense.

  jim penton, sam muramoto, chris christonson, and greg stafford.

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  Chris Christiansen, a Canadian, is one of the first dissident JWs in North America. He was probably the first to challenge WT over the three man star chamber judicial committee. His position followed the scriptural precedence that the judicial hearing in Israel was in front of the older men in a public place, such as the city gate, and in the NT scriptures included being heard in front of the entire congregation, not behind closed doors. He was subsequently DFd. He's done a lot of anti-WT compaigning, some quite successful. Wish I could remember the exact details, but he was instrumental in helping stop WT in New York from acquiring some building they wanted for Bethel expansion. Very knowledgeable of scriptures and legal matters. And an all around nice guy. Am glad to count him as a friend.

  Mrs Rocky
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  Win Fight - Loose Battle ? - Stratton, OH

  by Naomimara in

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  a victory indeed to fight at all costs ($) this supreme court battle over door-to-door permits.

  who now though would volunteer to work that territory.

  of course, the fight was for a higher issue that protects anonimous callers in general, but i couldn't help commenting on what the "air" in the village of stratton must be like today!

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  There was one Justice who dissented. He is concerned with a potential for crime and violations to personal privacy. To read the entire court opinion:

  http://www.supremecourtus.gov/

  Click on opinions, latest slip opinions, then scroll down to Watchtower Bible and Tract Soc., etc. It is in .pdf format.
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  Disgusting JW Funeral story

  by PopeOfEruke in

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  i heard of a funeral held for a sister last week in a kh.. her non-jw daughter-in-law write a poem for her, and wanted to read it at the service in the kingdom hall.

  the d-i-l had studied many years ago but was never baptized.

  however, because she was wearing slacks, she was refused to read it from the platform and had to read it from her seat in the audience.. how low can you go?

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  Funerals are already emotionally difficult. I'm surprised they even let the DIL read a poem at the KH at all. When my father in law passed away the family was not allowed to do anything but sit and be preached to. Even tho the brother who gave the funeral talk tried not to be so canned, he had to follow Borg policy. There was hardly any mention of my FIL's life, things he enjoyed, the stories about his family, all those little things that help family and friends heal. It is a memorial - doesn't that mean remembering the life of the deceased? Most of those who attended were non JW family and neighbors, very few from the KH. Don't think the non JW family and the neighbors had their hearts softened to hear the "Kingdom message." If anything they will probably slam the door in the faces of the Dubs the next time they come to the door.

  My heart goes out to you Pope. Wish I could make the hurt go away.

  Mrs R